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Re: Have Michigan Musicians Lost the Battle? (Score: 1)
by Mitch on Tuesday, February 10, 2004 @ 09:23:52 EST
(User Info | Send a Message) http://www.michiganbands.com | | I agree. It would be nice if there were some kind of ISO (International Standards Organization) for live performance and a seperate one for independently recorded work. Perhaps more than one level for each. The difficulty is in measuring those standards. Who decides? It used to be that barowners would hire agencies who screened the performers first. If you don't deliver top-notch entertainment, you don't get the commissions. |
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Re: Have Michigan Musicians Lost the Battle? (Score: 1)
by MusicMan on Tuesday, February 10, 2004 @ 10:55:31 EST
(User Info | Send a Message) | A union would be (at best) a waste of time of not a further deterrent for clubs to not hire bands. The basic problem is supply and demand. In today’s popular culture, most club-goers are not interested in a live band. They want do dance and hook-up. It doesn't make sense for a club to hire a band for $450 a night to draw only a small minority of the club going demographic. Hire a DJ to play CD's for a fraction of the price and fill the club. It is basic economics 101.
It sucks, but it's true. Until people at large are interested in live music again there will be little to nothing in the way of good clubs to play at or see a band. It’s circular and will (probably) come en vogue again …..In the mid to late 70’s when disco was kicking rock clubs asses it was probably a very similar situation?? Then there was the heydays of the 80’s where rock clubs reigned supreme.
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Re: Have Michigan Musicians Lost the Battle? (Score: 1)
by forsaken on Wednesday, February 11, 2004 @ 04:33:26 EST
(User Info | Send a Message) http://www.forsaken.us | I agree mostly, some bands have no buisness playing out yet, playing the same shows we do and ruin it for the people that came to the show. Or a really great band (like one I know) does nothing to promote themselves or even try to get people to come to shows. Club owners hurt when nobody comes threw the door, soon they try switching formats or go for a dj. They dont have a choice but to switch if the moneys not coming in, and soon the bands are out.
I have also noticed its much harder to get people to shows in the detroit area, if you play out of town at all you'll see a much better turn out then most detroit venues. To many bad shows for people and they stop going, or even bad neighborhoods have scared alot of people away, say like Harpo's. I know alot of people wont go to harpo's because of all the bad stuff that happenend there in the past. Now its better but people still think they are going to get shot, or beat up by some skinheads. |
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Re: Have Michigan Musicians Lost the Battle? (Score: 1)
by theBallistics13 (blah_blah_blah@theballistics13.net) on Wednesday, February 11, 2004 @ 20:22:32 EST
(User Info | Send a Message) http://www.theballistics13.net | I think that a union would be used to keep the in crowd in and all others in the basement. It's organized favoritism.
I'm in it for the fun. Part of my/our fun is playing out. There's allot of people that think our type of music (punk) isn't even music. If it would be the purpose of the union to filter out all the substandard bands who sets the standards? The bands in the union? I'll never go see any of them play. |
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